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Michael T. Craft At Your Service

Oct 1, 2025 · 44:21

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Welcome to Craft Beer Republic, where Greg is still hoping Flex will start thwipping webs, but instead he’s dropping ketchup confessions that belong in therapy. From trivia heartbreak and ear-splitting concerts to taproom food debates and QR code ordering fails, the guys are pouring plenty of laughs. And in Booze News, Charlie Sheen is making NA beer, investors are claiming their cash funded Netflix binges, and Michigan introduces us to the legal level of “super drunk.” 

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Flex may not be Spider-Man, but he’s mastered the “thwip” sound effect, much to Greg’s confusion. Paso Robles shows up as the top listening city, and Greg jokes about slapping QR codes in questionable places to boost downloads. The guys trade stories of trivia heartbreak after losing a championship by two points, and Greg explains why sitting too close to a live band nearly rattled his brain loose. Flex admits his lifelong ketchup obsession—from cucumbers to butter sandwiches—while Greg is left reeling and questioning everything he thought he knew about his co-host. The conversation takes a serious turn into taproom talk, where food, service, and post-COVID changes make or break a brewery visit.

Booze News:

  • Charlie Sheen jumps into NA beer with Wild AF Brewing.
  • Investors sue Island Brands, claiming their cash went to Netflix, Xbox, and Starbucks runs.
  • Brewers Association asks the DOJ to bust outdated beer laws that protect the big guys.
  • Michigan man goes “super drunk” with a .258 BAC after a loud argument.

Flex: Instagram: @flex_me_a_beer

Craft Beer Republic: CraftBeerRepublic.com


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Welcome in, everybody. It's the craft beer republic. Thanks for drinking. Thanks for joining. I'm Greg and I'm being joined by Izzy Spider-Man yet that's Flex. What's up, big fella? Uh, it is official. I am not Spider-Man. God damn it. I thought, you know, after your origin story of waiting, like, ten days, it finally kick in and you'd be the Spider-Man we all hoped for. Maybe it's more than ten days. Should we give it a full two weeks?

Oh, I'm gonna give it two weeks. All right, that's fair. How? When do we cut off our hoping? Uh, three weeks. Okay. 21 days after. Yeah, well, there was that one movie. It was, like, 28 days later, so maybe it's 28 days. Yeah. Had nothing to do with Spider-Man. But yeah, you're right. I mean, you know, it's just it's viruses and stuff. Uh. I'm just trying to make. I just really want to become Spider-Man. I get it.

Like, maybe after four weeks, I'll give it five. We'll see. We'll see. We'll play it week by week. But sooner or later, maybe I'll be flipping. Probably won't be flipping. Right. Hey, welcome to batch 948. Hey, you Spider-Man yet? Nope. Still waiting. Thwip thwip. Damn. I'm sorry. Are you falling on a wet floor? What is going on here? Yeah. You know, the the thwip, the Spider-Man, the sound that the webs come out. It's it's thwip.

Gotcha. I was not aware. You didn't know that. I didn't know it was thwip. Thwip. Yeah, like in the comics. Like th w.i.p is like thwip. Oh, would they write that out? Thwip. Whip. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure that's how. I'm not a comic reader. Sorry. Yeah. That's funny. Damn it. Anywho. Not a Spider-Man show. @CraftBeerRepublic. Uh, male @CraftBeerRepublic. Com all that good shit. All right. Lots to get to. Let's stop whipping around and, uh.

All that, uh, shout out to our top listing city of last week, which was actually Paso Robles, where I go all the time to drink wine and not drink beer. I don't know if I finally said the name long enough and people started listening up there. Or they started looking at the stickers on the bathroom wall and have been searching. Yeah, it says for a good time, call 805 538. Beer. Oh, I should give this a try. That's that's how I should get people to listen to the show. Just do like a QR code. It says like, for a free blowjob,

you know, scan this QR code. It just takes you to our website, or it takes them to Deb's Dexcom. How great would that be? Oh, what a great website. Site. Yeah. Oh, look, there's a picture of Spider-Man and Thwip. So anyways. Thanks. So maybe it's just my sister downloading the show over and over and over. You got a sister? Yeah. Uh, I think she's getting married soon, I don't know. That's fucking crazy, dude. You know, she should do. Because, you know, she's got child and all that stuff. She's got a kid. Yeah. It's crazy.

Happened yesterday. Unreal. Uh, she should download all the episodes and just play them on loop so that he gets more excited when I come over. That would make sense. Yeah. Nothing like early education by the @CraftBeerRepublic. Yeah. Use a little uncle Greggy. Daddy! Voice. Huh? I wanted that to sound weird. Yeah. Mission accomplished. I went with Uncle Greggy. Daddy. And not Uncle Daddy. Greggy. Yeah. Either way, it's not great. But you made it less greater.

That's what I'm here for. Good job. That's what they don't pay me for. One of these days. All right. Flex still on the, uh, antivenom over there. So not drinking, but I will be having a beer for you all. In fact, before I read the next thing, I think I need a beer. I Love My Beer. I Love My Beer. I Love My Beer. I Love My Beer. God damn.

Untapped has more pop ups than a fucking porn site these days. Say what? Yeah, I am drinking thanks to intern Brian. What a stud, by the way. Fucking stud. I tell you what, I'm drinking pint House Brewing's electric jellyfish. Ooh. That's a fun one. Yeah. 6.5% fun can, by the way. Very fun. I've had that one. Oh. Have you? Yes. I can't remember when I had it, but I had it, okay? It wasn't on the show because I looked it up before I had this, because I kind of thought I had

already drank it, and I went down this rabbit hole and I was like, okay, it does not exist on the show. Uh, 6.5% 73 IBUs has a 406 on Untappd with over 48,000 ratings. That's a lot. Jesus. They say brewed with some of our favorite new hop varieties from our favorite hop farmers citrus, Simcoe, Chinook, Yukon, Zaca, and Galaxy. When was that written? Because none of those are new. Electric jellyfish is filled with the bright tropical citrus character,

along with notes of orange, mango, lychee, and a floral backbone. The jellyfish is a hazy new school IPA focusing on juicy hop flavor and aroma while keeping the bitterness balanced and refreshing. See, I went on this whole thing today. I was like, did I have this already? I thought I had this already. Brian left it here on purpose so I could have it on the show, and so I was certain that I already had it, and it's just been sitting in my fridge for like a month. And so I went searching down. Finally I texted him. I was like, hey, didn't you leave this at my house? And then he couldn't remember

leaving it at my house, and then I had to refresh him. Then he found it on his untapped, which had a picture of my kitchen. So yes, he had it at my house, but, uh, apparently have not had it on the show yet. So anyways, I was excited to have it because this was one of the breweries that people told us we needed to go to, and we were in Austin and we did not. We ran out of time. We just. Yeah. White House pizza. What's it called? Pint House brewing. Pint House brewing. Okay. Yeah, we did drive by it. It looked like a really cool spot. It's ginormous. Big old pint house and lights across the side. Okay. Um, but yeah, just didn't have

time for for all the beers. But anyways, here we go. Digging in the schnoz. I'm getting some mango. I also get a little of that floral ness coming through, but it's a real, real light on the on the nose buds there. Yeah, I remember I had this beer, we got, uh, a bunch of, sorry, Texas stuff destroyed. There was like a 2 or 3 month stretch where the place I was getting my beer from was getting some Texas stuff, and I picked this up and I picked up some Jester King stuff as well,

and, uh. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm trying to check the date on here. I can't quite read it. Something in 25. Hey, it's less than a year old. There you go. It's newer than that one I had a few weeks ago, I'll tell you that. Uh, anyways, on the on the Tongue-jobber here, exactly how they described it. Some orange, some mango, some of that lychee, less floral on the, on the Tongue-jobber than on the the nose buds there. But kind of. Like. That. Yeah, a little bit. I don't like too much floral in my IPAs. Reminds me of like the old school bitter. Yeah.

Um, but dry and enough bitterness to keep you going back for more. As you can see, properly hazed. It looks wonderful. Yeah. Good lacing on it, too. Some pretty sexy. Sexy. Yeah. Very nice. Uh, so thank you to interim Brian for dropping this off. And sorry I didn't have it sooner. I kind of thought I already had. And speaking of forgetting things, just sitting in my fridge waiting to be drafted. That's actually pretty hilarious. Yeah. So, so good stuff. Uh, yeah. Cheers to penthouse. Thanks, Brian. You stud. Fucking stud.

Maybe one day when he hears that we called him a stud. He made my day by giving me some free beer. I tell you what. Let's get. Rocked up. This is his birthday a couple weeks ago, too. Happy belated. Happy belated birthday, stud. Brian. Yeah. You know, I felt we all went out for his birthday to this. It was a, you know, a band at a local bar. It's kind of a divey type bar. I haven't been there. You just call that live music, I don't think. Yeah. There you go. Wasn't a concert? Yeah, it was dumb. Anyways, it was so fucking loud because we were so close. Because we know somebody in the band and the wife and everything. So we're sitting right next to the band. I shit you not. It was so loud that the next day

my ears still rang, still hurt. Like anytime somebody put on music, I was like, oh my God, fucking turn it down obnoxiously loud. Do you know how I can tell you're old. Because of that? That whole thing. Look, here's the thing. I've gone to concerts where my. Like. I went to Dave's birthday. Dave Grohl, when he did his birthday bash. And like, basically every famous rocker came out and just fucking shredded our ears off. Awesome. My ears rang for three days. So amazing. I don't care. But this was one of those things

where because it was such a small space, like every time a drum or a cymbal hit, like you just see my eye twitch. You know, it just. It was too much. It was not balanced. It was too much. It was too close. It wasn't like the volume was turned up. It was like my face was inside his fucking snare drum. Yeah, I get it, I get it. And also, I'm old. I just like poking fun at you. Here's how I'm going to call myself old on this. I was looking up concerts at my local venue today because I was bored seeing if anybody was coming to town. And I saw a concert that I clicked on. It's coming in December.

And I was reading the excerpt on it, the description, and I kept scrolling down and it said they're advertising or putting out there. They have a new sound system. And I thought, ooh, I don't know about that. Are you sure? Yeah. I don't know if I could I don't know if I could take that. Yeah. Sound system. Yeah. That's so funny. You fucking old fart. I know, dude. It's terrible. Oh.

God. But anyways, it was. All I was saying was so loud that because of the noise, I wasn't able to talk to Brian. And I was gonna buy him a couple birthday beers. And every time I looked down like our our sync was off and we were at opposite ends of the table, and it wasn't like I was like, hey, don't drink beer when you're done with this one so I can get you in. You know, it just never happens. I still owe him a couple birthday beers. I did buy him one at trivia. Best. The best. The championship. Oh, we had another trivia championship last week. Another one? Yeah. Twice a year. Do you have. Oh, twice a year. And, uh, last time we got first. This time we got second by two

fucking points. That sucks. Yeah. We didn't miss one question. So how do you. Do you like wager points or. So there's two different rounds where if you're like one of the first three teams to get it in, you get bonus points. Oh. And so they clearly miss some because they got both bonus points. They should have beaten us by ten, but they only beat us by two. So they clearly missed some questions where we didn't miss not one question. You should almost just win by default for that. Thank you. Kevin, if you're listening. To hell with the points. Right. Played an immaculate game.

So anyways, O'Brien appeared to, uh. All right, I wanted to read this. I don't really think it fits into booze news. This is more of a discussion thing, but according to the Brewers Association, consumers are seeking food and beyond beer options, as well as expanded hours at a taproom. According to a new taproom report from the Brewers Association, breweries need to go beyond just beer if they want to keep customers coming back. Pulling data from RV, RV. RV. I don't know, taproom sales. The report shows that while

draught beer still dominates, food and expanded hours are becoming bigger factors. From January 23rd to December 24th, draught beer and food made up nearly 80% of taproom sales. But those sales swing hard with the seasons. Draught sales can drop by $7,600 in slower months, and food by nearly 5000 peak months can see 15 to 20% spike, while slower ones can fall up to 30% below average. Draught beer is also trending down, dropping about $73 a month on average.

The steepest decline across categories retail, beer and merch saw smaller drops, so to go stuff, while food sales actually rose by $42 a month. Liquor insider also ticked up slightly. The Brewers Association says that the slow shift shows the value of diversification. Breweries offering more food or beyond beer options like cider rtds fared better in 2020. For those that did. Saw a median production bump of 1.1%, compared to 6.5% decline across

craft segment overall. Even within beer, customers seem to be looking for more value. Pint sales dropped double digits year over year, while larger pours like 20 ounce and half liters saw modest growth, likely a sign of value seeking behavior. Smaller pours are way down, and when it comes to hours, Saturdays are still king. But weekdays like Monday and Tuesday are creeping up. Taproom sticking to just Thursday through Sunday might be missing out on some of that weekday traffic.

Bottom line beer still leading the charge, but food flexibility and poor variety could help taproom stay ahead of shifting trends. Very long way of saying, uh, we need more than just beer in Taprooms. It leads to my question. We are obviously drinking less beer than we did in our earlier years. Yes. What is it that would get you in a taproom or consistently so? I am 100% behind the food. Right? Because if you're just going to,

I don't know, like, I feel like the bar scene. Maybe I'm wrong. It's like, that's gonna own most of your drinking, right? You don't usually go out to a brewery to just be like, oh, hey, like, we're gonna spend the night here. Get hammered. Right? Also, because a lot of breweries will close up about eight, nine, 10 00:14:24 00. Sure. Yeah. I don't think any of them are 10 00:14:26 open past 10:00 by me. Okay. So I don't know what it's like 10 00:14:30 out by you. On the weekends. Some are open till 11 or 12. Okay. 10 00:14:35 But weekdays, it's usually by nine. Got it. 10 00:14:38 So then say, you know, you're looking for a spot to go for lunch, 10 00:14:43 and you really like your local brewery because you love their beer, 10 00:14:47 and they got the best beer around. But it's lunchtime and they 10 00:14:51 don't got no food, right? So now you're automatically 10 00:14:55 thinking elsewhere because they don't have food, you know. 10 00:14:59 And same thing with like dinner. It's like, hey, 10 00:15:01 we can go get a before dinner drink. You stop at a brewery, grab a beer 10 00:15:06 or two and then go get your food. Or you can just say, hey, 10 00:15:09 we're gonna go have dinner here, grab two to 3 to 4 beers and food, 10 00:15:16 you know, spend more money, spend more time, 10 00:15:18 and then you're kind of owning the customer in that sense. Mhm. 10 00:15:22 You know, and then you're competing against anybody else 10 00:15:26 in town who's got food which is always competition's great. Yeah. 10 00:15:30 Because now you've got food and the novelty of fresh beer. Right, right. 10 00:15:34 And if it's good beer then even better for you. Exactly. 10 00:15:38 One brewery comes, comes to mind, and I will not name names. 10 00:15:42 It's somewhere we frequent. And we like their beer. 10 00:15:45 They don't have food and they almost, almost always have a food truck 10 00:15:50 slash pop up type food thing because they're smart. 10 00:15:54 They know that food will keep you there longer, you'll buy more beer, 10 00:15:57 blah, blah blah. Here's the problem though. 10 00:16:01 Food trucks and pop ups are always so specific. Yep. 10 00:16:05 Like, you know, we're weirdos, we don't eat carbs and that kind 10 00:16:08 of stuff. Uh, like, this place specifically 10 00:16:11 almost always has pizza, and I'm not looking to have pizza. 10 00:16:16 And so I often will not go to this place over somewhere else 10 00:16:22 that has normal food, you know, like abundance of options, basically 10 00:16:26 rice salad or burger or whatever. So the food trucks just aren't 10 00:16:30 working for me anymore. Like, I feel like you need to 10 00:16:33 have like a real kitchen, okay? Or at least a food truck that's 10 00:16:37 more than just one specific item. Even if it's not pizza. 10 00:16:41 What if it's something I love? But, you know, nobody else wants 10 00:16:44 this thing, you know, like, hey, we're the salad truck. 10 00:16:46 And I'm like, fuck yeah, it's the salad truck. 10 00:16:48 You know, I'm gonna get a chicken Cobb salad 10 00:16:50 and have nine beers tonight. Everyone else is like, 10 00:16:53 I went to a brewery. Why the fuck do I want a salad? 10 00:16:55 You know. That's what I would think. No. Yeah. 10 00:16:57 I think it's important to have options. 10 00:16:59 Uh, because here's the thing. There's so many good breweries 10 00:17:02 around that we can go to, uh, like a tap house type of 10 00:17:07 establishment that has good food. And we're bound to find a couple 10 00:17:11 beers that we're into. Oh, for sure. Which negates the need for going 10 00:17:15 to the brewery. Yeah, right. Which happens all the time. Right. 10 00:17:19 Like, you've got Eagle Park and you're gonna go there because 10 00:17:23 they got some bomb ass fries. Absolutely. And they. Might. Have. 10 00:17:26 They have great food altogether. Yeah. Um, there's a brewery out. 10 00:17:31 I'm gonna fucking call him out because it's gone downhill. 10 00:17:34 Tarantula hill. Their food is so bad now. 10 00:17:37 We used to go because we like to eat there. The beer is the same. 10 00:17:42 But I don't know what happened in the kitchen. 10 00:17:45 It has gone downhill the last few times we've had food there. 10 00:17:48 It's just been bad, inconsistent. Uh, they almost always mess it up. 10 00:17:53 And it's not like we're substituting things. We're ordering it as is. 10 00:17:56 You know, it's like salads. How do you. 10 00:17:57 How do you fuck up a salad? You just. Here's your list of ingredients, 10 00:18:01 dummy. Yeah. And we're just tired of it. 10 00:18:03 We won't go anywhere because we want to. 10 00:18:05 It up or dump it out of the bag or. Right, do something. 10 00:18:08 So like we've we've kind of stopped going because their food has gotten 10 00:18:11 so bad and inconsistent. Okay. Um, I hope I hope they can change 10 00:18:16 because I used to like going there and having food and whatnot. 10 00:18:19 So yeah, I think food is a huge deal. Rtd's don't do it for me. 10 00:18:24 One thing that made me start thinking though, was, you know, 10 00:18:28 you and I are drinking more seltzers these days. Yeah. 10 00:18:32 Would you go to a brewery and order a seltzer? I've done it. 10 00:18:36 Have you? I have not. Yeah. The, uh, the last time I went up 10 00:18:40 to Eagle Park, my bartender Nerd center walk came up to me and asked 10 00:18:46 what beer I would like because he, you know, he knows me and he 10 00:18:50 knows what I drink. And I said, get me this, uh, 10 00:18:54 seltzer, huh? And no judgment. He just got the seltzer and we 10 00:18:59 had a great time. And yeah, I really appreciated it. 10 00:19:03 So shouldn't be judgment, because. No matter what. 10 00:19:05 It costs, you're still spending money. That's true. Yeah. 10 00:19:09 I can think of one brewery that we go to locally that does seltzers on a 10 00:19:16 regular basis, and I don't think I've ever ordered one from there. 10 00:19:20 I mean, the two nearby me, like the Explorer Emporium Mall 10 00:19:24 Pub and Eagle Park. They always have seltzers every day. 10 00:19:29 Eagle Park their. Own. They're not they're not bringing 10 00:19:31 them in. Right. Eagle Park has their specto cooler, 10 00:19:35 and they usually keep 1 or 2 varieties around like rotating 10 00:19:39 throughout the year. Mhm. Like they just came out with a 10 00:19:41 Concord grape one I think I talked about it a couple of weeks ago. 10 00:19:44 It was phenomenal. I should have bought an entire 10 00:19:46 fridge full of that. It was unreal. Uh, but the Marlborough pub, 10 00:19:51 I've never had theirs before. They're allegedly award winning. Oh. 10 00:19:56 And, uh, they're all kind of funny names, 10 00:20:00 like, uh, the grape one. It's like. I think they're like Kool-Aid 10 00:20:04 inspired flavors, and it's like. It's like, tastes like purple or 10 00:20:09 like, tastes like blue, and like, that's what it's called. Got it. 10 00:20:13 And it's just kind of funny in that sense. 10 00:20:16 And but they're they're supposed to be really. Exactly right. 10 00:20:18 I typed in exploring brewpub seltzer. Yeah. And tastes like purple. 10 00:20:22 Tastes like blue. First thing that popped up. Yeah. 10 00:20:25 So, uh, I've never had them. I probably should now that I'm 10 00:20:29 dabbling more into that area, but it's so hard to go there. 10 00:20:34 It's not that their food's bad. You know, 10 00:20:37 like when you go to a restaurant and you can tell what's like, 10 00:20:40 pre-made and what's. Once. Mhm. Mhm. You know there's nothing like 10 00:20:44 spending $20 on a frozen burger patty. You know that. 10 00:20:49 You know they just took out of the freezer and they cooked up and you're 10 00:20:53 just like oh yeah this. This was $20. I could have just did this for 10 00:20:59 free at home. And you know it just makes it 10 00:21:02 not worth it. Absolutely. I feel that so hard. It's not bad. 10 00:21:06 And some they were just much better pre-COVID. 10 00:21:10 And I think that speaks for a lot of. I think so. 10 00:21:13 Establishments which. Hill. Which you know we don't know the 10 00:21:18 variables. Right. We're not on the inside. 10 00:21:20 We're we're just a couple guys who don't mind speaking aloud our minds. 10 00:21:26 And, uh, yeah, I think a lot of things were better pre-COVID and 10 00:21:29 then post-Covid, just dealing with a lot of different variables. 10 00:21:35 And maybe it's staffing, maybe it's costs, maybe it's prices. Who knows? 10 00:21:41 Yeah, but, you know, you bring up another good point 10 00:21:43 that I hadn't even thought about. You know, 10 00:21:44 pre-COVID things were much different, you know, in quotes better. 10 00:21:48 One thing that I really dislike, and both the aforementioned Tarantula 10 00:21:52 Hill does this and so does Firestone. They they don't have like a real 10 00:21:57 wait staff. You scan a QR code, 10 00:22:00 you order and then it comes out, and I fucking hate it. 10 00:22:04 And I don't hate it for the old man reasons. 10 00:22:06 You're thinking I hate it for I hate it because of things like sometimes 10 00:22:10 they come out and they literally just drop your food and run. 10 00:22:13 And sometimes they forget silverware. Sometimes they forget ranch. 10 00:22:17 For my French fries. They forget. Especially for French. 10 00:22:20 They forget shit all the time. And then I've got to go, like, 10 00:22:23 literally chase someone down. And it ends up being that this 10 00:22:26 person does not work in the kitchen. And then that person's got to go 10 00:22:29 find someone who actually works in the kitchen to go get the fucking 10 00:22:33 ranch they forgot or whatever it is. I hate it so fucking much. 10 00:22:37 It would actually cause me to go more if they got rid of that. 10 00:22:42 Interesting. Yeah. And I know you say like, hey, 10 00:22:44 we're not on the inside, and you're 100% right. 10 00:22:46 We don't know the goings on of a restaurant slash brewery right 10 00:22:51 now in these times. But also we're the people that 10 00:22:56 are spending money there. Like we're the demo. 10 00:23:00 Again, very accurate. So, you know, maybe not that I'm 10 00:23:04 the end all be all, but maybe listen a little bit. 10 00:23:06 I fucking hate your ordering systems. You guys never come and check 10 00:23:10 and make sure things are cool. You forget shit all the time. 10 00:23:14 How much would it cost to just have somebody, even if you kept that 10 00:23:17 ordering system, one extra person on staff that just went around 10 00:23:21 and was like, everything good? Or maybe the manager could train 10 00:23:24 extra train people? Yeah, he was awful with that. 10 00:23:29 I don't know. There's a million people walking 10 00:23:30 around and none of them actually do anything. Um, I hate it. 10 00:23:34 I hate it so much. Eagle Park has that ordering. 10 00:23:37 Like, if you don't sit at the bar, they have all the QR codes on 10 00:23:40 the table. The people that dropped the food 10 00:23:42 off are very kind, very polite. Always ask if you need anything else. 10 00:23:48 If everything is okay. Uh. They're terrific. And get this. 10 00:23:54 They also have this rolly cart that's kind of by, like, their soda machine. 10 00:23:59 You know, if you just. Soda. Yeah. And it's got extra napkins. 10 00:24:04 It's got to go. Boxes. It's got just about anything 10 00:24:08 extra you would need. I like. It. If something was forgotten or 10 00:24:12 you didn't have enough of it. And I think that that's they do 10 00:24:16 not have ranch on the cart that you gotta order, but, uh, 10 00:24:20 but yeah, I think they they do a really great job of it. 10 00:24:23 And they could be like the standard model for something like that. 10 00:24:27 Yeah. Important question. What do you dipping your fries in 10 00:24:31 catsup? Oh, my God, are you serious? I love it I'm a. Freaking child. Man. 10 00:24:36 I've loved ketchup ever since I was a kid, I used. 10 00:24:40 I used to dip cucumbers in ketchup to dip pickles and ketchup. 10 00:24:45 I used to open up a bag of potato chips and get a little 10 00:24:48 bowl of ketchup. And dip my potato chips in ketchup. 10 00:24:51 My God. Oh, man. I used to spread ketchup on bread and 10 00:24:55 eat the bread. Oh, I love ketchup. I had no idea you were a sociopath. 10 00:25:00 Oh, yeah. I'm a freak, man. Oh my. God. 10 00:25:03 I apologize to anybody listening right now that didn't know I was 10 00:25:06 completely outside of my gourd. I am a nut job. Hold on. 10 00:25:11 Do you put it on your eggs? I used to, yeah. 10 00:25:14 Oh, and my mac and cheese. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. What the fuck is wrong? 10 00:25:22 Show me on the doll where they hurt you. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. That's real. 10 00:25:30 That's how you know it's good. Good. Mac and cheese. 10 00:25:33 A little ketchup on it. No, I don't do that anymore 10 00:25:37 because I've evolved. Sure, it's because people judge you. 10 00:25:40 If no one was watching, you totally do it, wouldn't you? 10 00:25:43 But when I was younger, man, that was a oh. No. 10 00:25:46 That was nothing like like some ruffles chips, the ridges in 10 00:25:51 some ketchup. Oh. Oh, man. But yeah, ketchup and butter sandwich 10 00:25:55 was one of my favorite things when I was a kid. Ketchup and butter. Yeah. 10 00:26:00 You spread butter on one piece of bread and you spread ketchup 10 00:26:05 on the other piece of bread. You put the two pieces of bread 10 00:26:10 together, and that becomes a ketchup butter sandwich. 10 00:26:16 Do you still eat this? No, but. Maybe I'll try it tomorrow and 10 00:26:22 let you know how it goes. Now, real question. 10 00:26:27 Is that a Wisconsin thing or is that a Flex thing? 10 00:26:30 No, I think that was just a fucked up me thing. Okay. 10 00:26:32 Cause I've never heard of that. Oh, it's not a real thing. 10 00:26:36 okay at all. I see two of them at a time. 10 00:26:39 Double fisting your butter and ketchup sandwiches. 10 00:26:42 They were so good. Dude, you don't even know. 10 00:26:48 Oh, I fucking can't. Oh, wow. We've officially lost all the 10 00:26:52 listeners. Yeah, we're down to nothing. 10 00:26:54 Yeah, I'm sorry, man. Sorry, sorry. One listener. 10 00:26:57 If you're still there. Wow. Yeah, I'm trying to think what 10 00:27:01 else with ketchup. I can't remember the last time I 10 00:27:04 had ketchup. I used to put ketchup. Like, if I made, like, 10 00:27:06 a turkey or ham sandwich. I put ketchup on the sandwich, too. 10 00:27:10 Oh my God. Like mayo and ketchup or. No, no mayo. Just. Just ketchup. 10 00:27:14 Okay. Um. Yeah. What else? Wow. Yeah. Just your standard hot dogs, 10 00:27:20 burgers, brats on brats. Oh, man. Oh, Greg. Oh my God! You're killing. 10 00:27:29 Me! Give me all the catsup. When I get my burger. 10 00:27:34 Uh, we got this restaurant out here. Culver's. 10 00:27:37 I don't know if it's out in California at all. 10 00:27:39 It's a little bit out nationwide. Uh, but they do burgers and 10 00:27:43 they're phenomenal. And I'll get burger or ketchup on my 10 00:27:47 burger, and then I'll come home and I'll squirt ketchup on every bite 10 00:27:52 of the burger I'm about to take. Wow. Oh, I love it. It's so good. 10 00:28:00 Here's the only fond memory of ketchup that I have, 10 00:28:02 and I honestly, I cannot remember the last time I had ketchup. 10 00:28:06 It's been well over a decade, but the one fond memory of ketchup 10 00:28:10 I have is back in the day. McDonald's. You order a cheeseburger. 10 00:28:14 And when we were kids, they didn't make food to order at McDonald's. 10 00:28:19 They would basically store it in a heated like bin. 10 00:28:24 And so sometimes these cheeseburgers would sit there for 20 minutes 10 00:28:29 before you actually got to it. Okay. And it gave the ketchup this 10 00:28:33 like Almost gelatinous. You know. And like, it. 10 00:28:40 Would, like. Reduce a little. It'd be a little extra sweet, 10 00:28:43 you know, that kind of thing. And good or bad, to me, 10 00:28:47 it tastes like childhood. And when I worked at McDonald's 10 00:28:51 in high school and into college, I guess through college, um, 10 00:28:55 they didn't do they didn't make burgers that way anymore. 10 00:28:58 They, you know, it was all made to order. 10 00:28:59 So sometimes on my break, I would make a cheeseburger, 10 00:29:02 ketchup, you know, all the normal shit and just let it sit there for, 10 00:29:06 like, 20 minutes before my break and then eat them like, oh, yeah, 10 00:29:10 this is fucking childhood right here. Oh, man. That's funny. 10 00:29:15 So weird and gross. But that is gross. 10 00:29:17 That or if I was in some if I wanted some nuggies, 10 00:29:19 I wanted to taste like childhood. Just let them sit there 20 minutes. 10 00:29:22 Boom. Tasted like I was. Never, never liked cold nuggets. 10 00:29:26 No, no, they don't get cold because they sit in what they, 10 00:29:29 they used to call it the hells, the hot landing zone in the. 10 00:29:32 It's The things I wish I could forget. 10 00:29:35 And you know, that thing was probably 100 and, 10 00:29:39 I don't know, 50 degrees or whatever. So it kept everything pleasantly 10 00:29:42 warm, but not fresh. When I was younger, I liked the, 10 00:29:46 uh, the circle nuggets over the boot shaped nuggets. 10 00:29:50 Oh, give me all the boots, man. Um, and I would again, you're gonna 10 00:29:55 start thinking I'm like. Ketchup. Uh, I did when I was younger. Yeah. 10 00:30:00 Um. Has the best barbecue sauce. I would eat all the breading off. 10 00:30:05 Oh, my God. The nuggets then. Damn it. And then I would eat it. 10 00:30:12 I don't know why. I don't know why I'm admitting all 10 00:30:15 of this. I don't know why either. Would you, after you ate all the 10 00:30:19 breading off, would you look at him like he puts the lotion on his skin, 10 00:30:24 puts the ketchup on his chicken? Oh, take it off. 10 00:30:30 No, I just I would just eat the fake chicken. Wow. Yeah. The pink sludge. 10 00:30:37 Well, we have really gotten off course. 10 00:30:39 Uh, let us know what would get you back into whatever. 10 00:30:43 Hopefully it's not ketchup. Whew. Wow. Learned a lot. 10 00:30:48 This is very educational. Flex. Maybe. 10 00:30:51 Maybe you'll think different of me. Maybe you won't. 10 00:30:53 I think there's no way I can't. Ketchup on eggs is solid, though. 10 00:30:58 No, I would much more be okay with ketchup on fries or burger 10 00:31:05 or hot dog than eggs. Eggs is. Weird. Yeah. Clearly. Whew. 10 00:31:12 I still love you, though. Not a ketchup show? 10 00:31:16 No, very much not. We'll move on to some booze news. 10 00:31:21 Uh, here's something I thought I'd never say. 10 00:31:23 Charlie Sheen is officially jumping into the Na beer game with a brand 10 00:31:28 new offering called wild AF brewing. That sounds familiar for some reason. 10 00:31:33 Wild AF brewing? Yeah. Is it full of tiger blood? 10 00:31:38 I don't know. Maybe just wild AF. Maybe. That was like a show. 10 00:31:42 Yeah, maybe. Uh, the Hollywood Wild Card has 10 00:31:45 teamed up with Harpoon Brewery and a branding firm called the silent 10 00:31:48 Group to launch the new line, starting with a flagship and a 10 00:31:51 lager called Cold Gold Sheen. Now, eight years sober, 10 00:31:56 says he's tried every non-alcoholic beer on the market and wanted to 10 00:31:59 make one that didn't suck his exist. His exact quote, wild AF is for 10 00:32:04 people who believe that morning belongs to the night before. 10 00:32:08 All right. The beer is available now for 10 00:32:10 pre-order in six, 12 and 24 packs online, 10 00:32:12 with shipping starting November, just in time for the holidays. 10 00:32:16 And our least favorite. Does that mean, like, 10 00:32:19 you should be able to wake up and just drink this right away? 10 00:32:22 Is it that or because you didn't wreck yourself the night before? 10 00:32:25 You've still got the morning. Like you're not hungover. Right. 10 00:32:29 Okay. I don't fucking know. It's Charlie Sheen. 10 00:32:32 I didn't know he was eight years sober. I didn't either. 10 00:32:34 I'm very surprised to hear that. Have you seen his new documentary? 10 00:32:38 No. Oh, I have yet to see it, but I 10 00:32:40 hear really good things about it. I really want to watch it. 10 00:32:43 Are you still crazy? Yeah, but not on drugs. Crazy. 10 00:32:47 Just crazy. Crazy. Oh, okay. That's crazy. 10 00:32:49 Just naturally crazy. Yeah. Do you remember when he was, like, 10 00:32:53 at the peak of his drugs? Crazy. And he did a whole thing where 10 00:32:57 he was searching for an intern? Uh, I might have missed this. 10 00:33:02 Okay, this sounds awesome. Must have been, like, 2010 ish. 10 00:33:07 If I had to guess. Definitely don't remember this. Okay. 10 00:33:10 The whole thing that was like, mid like Tiger Blood and winning 10 00:33:14 in those days. And he's like, I'm looking for 10 00:33:16 an intern. And I applied. I thought, you know what? 10 00:33:19 I hated my job at the time. I was making very little money 10 00:33:22 and my boss was a dick. I was like, you know, I'll go 10 00:33:24 fucking be a tiger blood intern. And at the very least, 10 00:33:27 maybe I could get some social cred and get some followers or whatever, 10 00:33:31 you know. And I applied. I actually made it to the second 10 00:33:34 round of interviews. No way. Yeah. Damn. That's awesome. 10 00:33:38 Then after that, no. No bueno. I had to sign up for a Twitter 10 00:33:40 account just for that, though. That was the first time I ever 10 00:33:42 signed up for Twitter. Was because the internships. 10 00:33:45 So then it was like a race to, like, I need to create a bunch 10 00:33:47 of tweets and be funny. Oh, 10 00:33:49 because I was part of the interview. Yeah, it was to like run his social 10 00:33:52 media stuff was part of the the gig. So and I already had like Facebook 10 00:33:57 and Gram I think or whatever. Probably still Myspace at that time. 10 00:34:01 Yeah. Maybe winning. Um, but yeah. So all that to say, fuck you. 10 00:34:07 Twitter. Island brands, the co-founders 10 00:34:10 face in an investor lawsuit and new owners take over Lisa Pollner 10 00:34:16 and Caleb Fournier, a wife and husband duo who befriended Island 10 00:34:21 co-founders Scott and Megan Hansen, claimed the Hansens breached their 10 00:34:25 fiduciary fiduciary, fiduciary. Your trigger duty and committed 10 00:34:32 fraud by using hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in the lager 10 00:34:36 brand for personal benefit. The lawsuit, which was filed 10 00:34:39 August 28th in the ninth Judicial Circuit in South Carolina. 10 00:34:45 Charleston County, also names Mota and Padgett Thomas 10 00:34:50 limited liability companies in Charleston as defendants. 10 00:34:54 The plaintiffs relationship with AB ABH began in 2018, 10 00:34:58 when the Hansons invited them to invest in Island Brands, a disruptive 10 00:35:02 lifestyle brand with premium products across multiple segments in the 10 00:35:06 adult beverage space, according to a now closed crowdfunding 10 00:35:10 campaign on Start Engine. Between June of 2018 and February 10 00:35:14 of 2019, Pollner and Fournier gave the Hansons a total of $500,000 10 00:35:21 that they mistakenly believed was being invested into ABH via an 10 00:35:25 account owned by Paget Thomas LLC. Instead of using the money for 10 00:35:29 fledgling beer brand, the plaintiffs allege that the 10 00:35:31 Hansens spent it on vacations, as well as an online subscription 10 00:35:35 for Netflix and Xbox, paid for their groceries and medicines, 10 00:35:39 gas and Starbucks and fancy meals. After ABH was dissolved, 10 00:35:45 an unaffiliated third party private investment group acquired Island 10 00:35:48 Brands and produces it for the southeastern US and Caribbean. 10 00:35:53 You're just blindly giving 500 grand to some weird alcohol brand. 10 00:35:56 Yeah, that's kind of crazy. That is kind of crazy. 10 00:35:59 I could be a blind alcohol brand. Anybody want to give me $500,000? 10 00:36:04 Yeah. Samesies. Uh, 10 00:36:06 the Flex and Greg alcohol company. You should invest today. Yeah. 10 00:36:10 Please do. We're gonna do big things. The biggest. Yes. It's gonna be huge. 10 00:36:16 Also, uh, judicial system. No quicker way to tell if you're 10 00:36:22 drunk than by making someone say judicial system. Yeah, that's. 10 00:36:27 Why would you do that? Yeah. Old, old Dana Carvey joke. 10 00:36:30 Sorry, everyone. Judicial system. It's so funny you said that. 10 00:36:34 Because every time I hear that word, that's what I think of. Is it really? 10 00:36:38 Yeah. And that's why we're friends. Yeah. Chopping broccoli. 10 00:36:41 Uh, outdated state laws are screwing over small breweries. 10 00:36:45 And the Brewers Association wants the DOJ to step in. 10 00:36:49 The Brewers Association is calling out a trio of state level beer laws 10 00:36:52 that they say are crushing small brewers and protecting the big guys. 10 00:36:57 Also, anytime I hear big guys or like, 10 00:36:59 good guys, I always think of Scott Hall taking a survey. Yeah, one. 10 00:37:03 More, one more for the good guys. Uh, in a letter to US Department 10 00:37:07 of Justice this week, BA vp mark Cerini described certain 10 00:37:11 franchise laws, the three tier system and territory exclusivity as, 10 00:37:16 quote, thinly veiled mechanisms for favoring large entrenched 10 00:37:20 economic actors at the expense of consumers and healthy competition. 10 00:37:25 Translation these laws make it harder and more expensive for 10 00:37:28 small breweries to do business, especially when trying to get 10 00:37:31 out of bad distribution deals or expand to new markets. 10 00:37:35 The Bay is asking the DOJ to investigate how these outdated 10 00:37:38 laws are messing with the economy and interstate commerce. 10 00:37:41 This could have a major impact on more than 5000 breweries, 10 00:37:44 along with the Brewers Association, most of which are independently 10 00:37:47 owned by small producers. This is what I've been bitching 10 00:37:51 about for years. We harp on this all the time. 10 00:37:53 Yeah, Budweiser's basically set the laws back as prohibition was ending. 10 00:37:59 For some reason, Budweiser was allowed to write half the laws, 10 00:38:02 and that's why we have the three tiered system and the territory stuff 10 00:38:06 and all the distribution rules. And it's about time to get rid of 10 00:38:09 that bullshit. Agreed? Agreed. You know, you know, they were able to 10 00:38:15 write all of it because they just probably paid everybody off. Right? 10 00:38:19 I mean, they're. All the politicians. Yeah. Filthy rich. Filthy rich. 10 00:38:24 Uh, we'll end it on this one. A Michigan man has a loud 10 00:38:28 argument and an even louder BAC. Police in Saginaw responded to 10 00:38:35 reports. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Respond to reports of gunfire in a 10 00:38:39 quiet West Side neighborhood just after midnight on September 17th. 10 00:38:43 Officers already nearby said they heard three shots ring out 10 00:38:47 and followed the sound to a house on Greenwich Street. 10 00:38:50 That's where 59 year old Michael T Kraft cheese. What a name. 10 00:38:54 What a name! Stepped out to meet them with 10 00:38:58 what he claimed was a perfectly reasonable explanation. 10 00:39:01 It wasn't gunfire, it was fireworks. But after a few more questions, 10 00:39:06 that story started to fizzle out. Kraft eventually admitted he'd 10 00:39:10 fired a handgun, allegedly because he was, quote, 10 00:39:13 having troubles with his neighbor. Oh. It's the first thing I do. 10 00:39:17 Reasonable, yeah. Neighbors being a dick. 10 00:39:20 Where's my gun? He then led officers into the 10 00:39:24 home where they found a gun sitting on the couch. 10 00:39:27 Then came his breathalyzer test. Oh, boy. You want to guess? 10 00:39:32 Um, first of all, the best place to ever keep a gun is on your couch. 10 00:39:37 Obviously. Easy access. Clearly. Uh. Loud. Back. Loud thinking. 10 00:39:45 Sub three. Two. Correct. Um, because that's way too loud. 10 00:39:50 But it's got to be more than double the limit. Also correct. 10 00:39:54 So I'm trying to narrow this in and we'll meet at like a happy medium of 10 00:39:58 like a 0.25. Oh my .258. Look at you. Wow. Wow. It goes on for context. 10 00:40:05 Michigan considers anything over a 0.17 to be, quote, 10 00:40:09 super drunk. No way. I'll get back to that in a second. 10 00:40:14 After his arrest, things got even worse at the hospital, where 10 00:40:17 craft reportedly became verbally aggressive and charged at officers. 10 00:40:20 He's now facing charges of firearm, possession of the influence, reckless 10 00:40:23 discharge and resisting police. He was released on $700 bond and 10 00:40:27 is due back in court October 3rd. No one was hurt, 10 00:40:30 but based on the back, we're guessing the neighbors weren't 10 00:40:33 the only ones dodging bullets. Okay. Super drunk. I looked this up. 10 00:40:36 It's a real fucking thing. I thought, 10 00:40:40 this must be them being cutesy when they wrote the article or something, 10 00:40:43 right? That's what I thought. Super drunk is a real legal 10 00:40:48 designation in some states. In Michigan, 10 00:40:51 they passed the law known as the Super Drunk Law back in 2010. 10 00:40:55 It targets people who are caught driving with a BAC of 0.17 or higher, 10 00:41:00 which is more than twice the legal limit. 10 00:41:03 So do you only have to get caught drinking or driving with the BAC 10 00:41:08 to be considered super drunk? Or is that just like 0.17 is 10 00:41:12 considered super drunk? So I think 0.17 is considered super 10 00:41:16 drunk, but where it becomes effective in terms of charging someone. 10 00:41:21 Is the driving. Yeah. I think if you know you're drunk 10 00:41:25 in public and super drunk, you're probably not going to face 10 00:41:28 much more than you normally would. But if you're caught, if you're 10 00:41:30 caught driving and you're over double the legal limit now, they can 10 00:41:34 really stick it up your ass. Got it. So yeah, I was like, what a legal 10 00:41:39 sounding term. Super drunk. I mean. Super is just like a adjective 10 00:41:48 meaning like. It's like, I mean, it it works, 10 00:41:52 right? You know, like. Yeah. Hey, you know what? 10 00:41:55 Flex was super drunk at the Packers game a couple of weeks ago. No. 10 00:41:59 No joke. That was the first thing that crossed 10 00:42:01 my mind, man. Super drunk. Oh, yeah. Definitely super drunk. Yeah. 10 00:42:09 Might have blown that 0.17. Yeah. The good thing I was not driving. 10 00:42:15 Yes. Yeah. That's like I've told this before, 10 00:42:18 but it's been a while. That's like the time I went to a 10 00:42:20 Padres game and we walked outside and they were doing breathalyzer tests, 10 00:42:24 and it was like as a, you know, know your limit kind of thing. 10 00:42:26 No one was being arrested because it wasn't any of the cars were 10 00:42:29 right and we weren't driving. So I was like, I don't care what 10 00:42:33 I blow, doesn't matter. And so we walk up and they asked you, 10 00:42:35 the cops like, hey, what do you think you're gonna go? 10 00:42:37 And the wife goes, I think I'm gonna be right at the legal limit, you 10 00:42:40 know, .08, maybe nine. And she blew. She was right on the money .08. 10 00:42:45 And they go, hey, what do you think you are? 10 00:42:46 And I was like, I'm definitely not legal to drive, 10 00:42:51 let's say like a 0.12. And I blew and it was like a 10 00:42:55 0.18 or something like that. Cops like, I hope you're not driving. 10 00:43:00 I was like, I wasn't planning on it. Definitely not. 10 00:43:03 Now you don't have to worry about me. I just was here for the the show 10 00:43:07 of doing a breathalyzer. Boy. Blue. Super drunk. Yep. Whoops. 10 00:43:12 Don't go to Michigan. It's like going supersonic or 10 00:43:16 something. Like he's about to go super drunk. 10 00:43:19 Everybody. You guys hear Greg got got super 10 00:43:22 drunk last night. Again. Oh, man. Yeah. Good times. So. 10 00:43:27 All right, let's, uh, let's say we wrap things up. Yeah. Right on. 10 00:43:31 All right, I'm gonna say hi to Vanessa. Hello, Vanessa. 10 00:43:34 Hi, there. Two weeks in a row. No Florida stories. Ooh. 10 00:43:38 Sad day, dry spell. Uh, follow us on the socials. 10 00:43:41 @CraftBeerRepublic mail @CraftBeerRepublic. Com. 80553 beer. 10 00:43:45 2337. All of that good stuff. Maybe by next week, 10 00:43:49 not only will Flex be drinking, but also be in the whip. Whip. 10 00:43:56 Whip, whip. I didn't even know that was a thing. 10 00:44:01 Uh, so anyways, hope everyone out there is staying very well hydrated. 10 00:44:05 And on that note. Good night everybody.

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