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Do I Feel a Saison Coming?

May 13, 2026 · 44:32

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Welcome to the Oregon Trail of craft beer. Flex drains two bad beers before a saison finally turns the night around, Greg checks out a brewery soft opening where every beer tastes suspiciously similar, and listener Steph joins the growing campaign to drag Flex to Great Taste of the Midwest. There’s also a coffee stout made with poop-adjacent beans, Cinco de Mayo drinking regrets, glow-in-the-dark 15% malt liquor light bulbs, and a DUI story featuring a .349 BAC that really should’ve come with a priest.

Beers We’re Drinking:

  1. Flex is drinking Supermoon Beer Company’s Saison, a crisp farmhouse ale with light funk and old-school saison character.
  2. Greg is drinking Altamont Beer Works’ Cali Hop Trip, a modern West Coast IPA collaborate with Firestone Walker and Hollingbery & Son Hops.

Flex accidentally assembled the worst beer lineup imaginable before the show, including a metallic peach Berliner and an expired IPA that both ended up down the drain. Greg recaps a local brewery soft opening where the beers tasted unfinished and somehow nearly identical despite being different styles. Listener Steph leaves a voicemail demanding Flex stop dodging Great Taste of the Midwest, which turns into a full-on intervention once Pilot Tom gets involved. Greg and Flex also debate poop coffee beer, relive disastrous Cinco de Mayo drinking decisions from their younger years, and question why anyone thought glow-in-the-dark 15% malt liquor light bulbs needed to exist.

Booze News:

  1. Lord Hobo moves production to Rhode Island
  2. Michelob Ultra becomes Cinco de Mayo’s top draft beer
  3. New Belgium brings back original Fat Tire
  4. Boston Beer launches 15% “electric coolers” in plastic light bulbs
  5. Folsom driver arrested with a .349 BAC

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Today we've got a favorite beer making its return. Bad news from Cinco de Mayo, a voicemail from our favorite Utahan and 14 reasons to Only drink Mike ultra. Let's go. Welcome in everybody. It's the craft beer Republic. Thanks for drinking. Thanks for joining. I am Greg and coming at me from the freshest of all the coasts. That's big Flex. What's up, big fella? Uh, it's.

It's been a night, man. I know a little pre-show, uh, issues going on. Yeah, a little sewage. Situation. And. Yeah, man. That's not good. We can talk about it. We should. We should bring that up in just a second. Uh, yeah, I got no problem with that. Yeah, but first, make sure you check us all out. @CraftBeerRepublic across the board, @CraftBeerRepublic dot com. @Flex_me_a_beer underscores all that good stuff. First, let's give a shout out to our top listening city of last week. And that is Portland, Oregon. They came in huge like way above everyone else.

I don't know what's going on in Portland or Portland. Yeah. If, uh, like Erica was paying off some of her homies back home or what, but, uh, it worked out. And thank you, Portland, for listening. We mucho appreciate it. Yeah, I, you know, I like Oregon. I got no issues with it. Yeah. I like the Oregon Trail. Great game. Oh wonderful game. Always die of dysentery. So nostalgic. Yeah. If you haven't seen it yet. I mean, this is like 15 years old, but go on YouTube and type in Oregon Trail movie trailer. It is hilarious. Maybe I've seen it.

Uh, we'll probably have to rekindle myself. Yeah, that's a good one. Lots of dysentery and that sort of thing. So, uh, good times. But hey, alas, not a dysentery show. Not yet, not yet. Flex has had a few beers. It might turn into one, but, uh, speaking of which, let's see what he's drinking over there. Oh, man. In a world where craft beer is king, a world where muscles are bigger than growlers. Only one tongue can guide us. One man, one tongue, one Tongue-jobber.

In this world we must find out what is Flex drinking. So tonight, kind of an out of pocket, so to speak. Beer. I feel like it's a style we shit on often. Do I feel a saison coming? Um, it's a saison. Um. I used to think I liked these. Talk about dysentery. Um. Yeah. Right.

But they drank a lot of this and died on the Oregon Trail. But but I, I caught this at my local Trader Joe's, which we'll get into later. My favorite beer shop. And it's Supermoon beer company. They're a little brewery over in Bay view here. Okay. And I really like their can. It's like a three quarter label and they have a moon on there and it literally just says sézanne. Very simple. Super simple, elegant. Big fan of the packaging. But yeah, this is a farmhouse style ale, a sézanne, and it is brewed

with spelt oats and aged hops, which I think you want to tell the people about aged hops. Well, I did look it up because I'd never heard that term before. And this is aged hops are whole leaf hops stored over extended periods at room temperature to purposely oxidize them, stripping away fresh aroma and bitterness. They're primarily used in lambic and other spontaneously fermented sour beers to provide antimicrobial protection without adding harsh bitterness or fresh hop flavor. Yeah, and this on the can, it says

fermented naturally carbonated. In this package, yeast Sediment will form. Serve chilled. Oh, goody. Like a home brew. I'm excited. Uh, this, uh, weighs in at about 5.6%. 789 check ins. They're a small brewery. Yeah, but a 391. So people are respecting the season. So, uh,

get the old nose buds in there. Uh. Huh. Smells like expired hops. That left out the mold. So it does. It smells like like, kind of like old. Like old hops. It's like if you had, like, a bag of hops, but then somebody put in, like, their gym socks, you know, in the bag, and you let it sit for a little bit and then you opened it. Now let's talk a little bit about hops. I'd say that's pretty accurate.

Nothing turns me on like the descriptors of wet gym socks and wet. Hey, I can see why I love Cezanne so much. Yeah, I've smelled me some wet hay before. I'm not getting any of that here. Okay. Just dirty gym clothing. Great. But I guess, uh, without further ado, uh. We're gonna. This is what I wish it was a video podcast. Dive right in here. Yeah. I always forget that you can see me. That's the only reason I still do it.

Warm up the old Tongue-jobber here. Uh. So enthusiastic. Oh, man. It's been a while. All right. Been a while. He hasn't started crying yet. So it's not bad. Okay. It's not bad at all. Tastes like stale hops. It's like a man. It's like a pilsner. That was, like, left to the wayside. Like that's what it reminds me of. It's it's crisp. It really is.

Um, there's no real off flavor or like, you know, not off flavor, but like, you know, like, uh. Like you don't taste the gym. Like disgusting flavor. Like, you know, the, hey, the socks, the manure or whatever. Um, you do get a little bit of a funk at like the real back end of the drink. But all in all, I mean, if I just got done cutting my grass in like 80 degree weather. Mhm. And someone was like, hey, man,

want this saison? Yeah, I'd probably take him up on it. And would I buy it again? Probably not. How many did you buy? I did buy one. Oh, okay. A single candidate, I Trader Joe's single candidate. Oh, my favorite bottle shop. Glad I did. I'm glad I tried this. Okay, I can say that. Yeah. That's fair. A 391, Maybe for this style that I'm not very well versed into drinking. Sure. You know, maybe that's okay.

Appropriate? Yeah. What? I would give it. I wouldn't rate it because. That'd be mean. Yeah. I don't do that, you know? Sure. Like, why would I take it down when I'm not familiar with the style? Right. It's like the people who give a lager a two stars because it wasn't hoppy enough or some shit like that. Yeah, but this color is cool. It's like. Yeah, very bright. It's bright. It's a little foggy. It's. Yeah, it's a nice looking color. Yeah. It's super beautiful beer. It actually almost matches the label color too. Oh, it actually really does.

That's fucking wild. I wonder if they plan that if they didn't. Uh, yeah. Happy accident. Like. Yeah, that one painter guy. So let me ask you, do you have any other beers tonight? Oh, man. So I did try two other beers tonight before the show started. Uh, one was a TJ's brewed beer from the brewery out in the Madison area. Waunakee. Uh, right. Right here in my home state.

Right. And it sounded really good. It was, uh, peach Berliner with, uh, peach puree. It had apple juice and pineapple juice, and I was all for it. Yeah. And I poured it out and it tasted like metal. Flex. The the cheapskate. The stingy bastard. Was this your first ever drink? Pour that. My first ever. And they're very rare, but. They're so rare. It was bad. It was. It was really bad. And it lingered. It might still be on my tongue

right now. That stays on. Might get better as the, uh, lingering wears off. It was like, it was like bitter aluminum. I, I did not enjoy it. Oof! Then I had a second beer, which my mistake, you know, I was shopping with my wife. I wasn't checking dates or, um, you know, whatnot. And I found another beer by a brewery in Illinois and I thought, hey, never had it. Sounds interesting. Single can sign me up. And that one kind of tasted the same way. It's like aluminum hops.

No, I, I heard they recently decided to add extremely bitter to it. And then I just looked on the can after that. And it did expire in a month. Mhm. So it wasn't dead yet, but, uh, that one also went down the drain. Um, with my beer lifestyle. Now where if it's gotta be good, if I'm gonna drink it, right. That's my thing. Um, you know, craft beer. I'm not just gonna drink anything. Uh, that's not going to be worth,

uh, my taste buds, my feeling in the morning. Mhm. Imagine drinking those and waking up tomorrow. Oof! Just getting because of how shitty they are. Especially all that sugar in the Berliner. I bet that would have really been fun. That does hit me pretty hard. But so yeah. So then I opted for the farmhouse song. It's a rough day when the song was the best choice. I'm glad I've never had anything by Supermoon. I've heard things about them,

and I'm glad that I was finally able to see them in the wild and give them a try and say that I think you're saison is good, right? When it comes to, uh. Zons in the world of Cézanne's, you guys nailed it. I just kind of like saying that word, too. Yeah. Saison. Oui, oui. Flex doing the Lord's work over there. Oh, man. Uh, well, I got a question for you. I like questions. Would you drink a beer made with coffee beans that came out of an animal's?

But that's a tough one. Uh. Uh. Can you tell me about the beer? Sure. So we've been doing these, uh, gross beer origin stories for a while. Uh, this one is a beer called beer geek. Brunch weasel from, uh, naughty list. McKellar. The beer used something called Kopi Luwak coffee, which is made from coffee beans eaten and then processed by an animal called a civet.

Basically, these little cat looking creatures eat coffee cherries. The beans then pass through their digestive system. People collect them afterwards, then clean them up, roast them. And somehow everyone decided that this was a luxury coffee. Huh? Yeah. Huh. So, you know, naturally, a weird brewery like McKellar looked at this and said, you know what? This beer needs. Some. Some poop coffee. Um. I'm gonna you kind of got me at. They clean them up. Okay.

Just kind of thinking they, you know, scooped him up and just saved him right in. Yeah. You know, like. Uh, the. Beer. Itself. Was gonna get him while they're fresh. Or hot. The beer itself was a huge Imperial stout brewed with the mentioned coffee. And apparently people loved it because the digestion process supposedly makes the coffee smoother and less bitter. I wouldn't know about that. I don't drink, um, black coffee. Okay.

So and I feel like if you add cream to it, it just automatically ruins everything. If you're like, uh, it's like a bourbon drinker, like a wine drinker, like they always try to get the notes out of everything. I wouldn't know what a smooth coffee is. Yeah. I always put a little splash of heavy cream in mine. No sugar, no flavors, but a little splash of heavy cream is good. Yeah, I like the cream just to cool it down so I can drink it faster. Oh, I don't need it for temp. I just like a little milkiness to it. Oh, I mean, I appreciate it,

but for me, I'm like, I want to start drinking this coffee ASAP. Oh I will. Anyways, that's that's give me the hot coffee. I like it hot. Oh man. Yeah. Um, I don't know, I. Isn't this how they do the Kona coffee? Isn't it Kona coffee? Like eaten by goats and then shit out too. I feel like, you know, way more than I do. Like, that's what this conversation is leading me to, is that I don't know anything. Okay. Let's see. Let me quick, quick Google here. Kona coffee.

I'll have to look that up later. Yeah, this kind of weirds me out a little bit, but, um. Oh no, I guess not. Hand-picking only ripe red cherries on the big island of Hawaii, followed by wet processing and sun drying. Uh, okay, I guess I was wrong about Kona coffee, but anyways, yeah, I don't, I don't love, I don't need to eat the, uh, the poop off of a coffee bean. You know, it's cleaned and roasted like I'm not. worried. I don't think it'd get you sick. Would I try it? I guess it seems fucking weird and whatever,

but I guess I would probably try it. Yeah, I would try it. Yeah. I think I already said I would do poop beer. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So I guess that would be going back on anything if I didn't. But yeah that's true. Yeah. I would do it. All right. Yeah, I guess I would uh. Speaking of yeah, speaking of drinking beers did a little research last weekend. Um, do I want to present this? I think I'm going to refrain

from some names. I, uh, did some, some research. Like I said, brewery, new brewery near me doing a soft opening. That's the thing. Soft opening. So still working out kinks. Um, went in, uh, everyone working super friendly. No problems there. Very clean place, no problems there. It is sort of old school in the sense that it's like in a, you know, industrial area. Like, I feel like we were sort of moving away from those for breweries a little bit, but very much in an industrial area.

They, for their soft opening, they only had three of their own beers. One of them was a collab and then a wall full of guest taps while they're still working on their own stuff. So I had the three beers that they are a part of and um, their collab was a kolsch and it was pretty drinkable. It's a weird beer to collab on. Oh, cool. Yeah, because it's so easy to make and there's nothing like special. It wasn't like a oh, special, dry hopped, blah blah blah coffee kolsch. Hey, now that's a good beer to

collab on, let me tell you. Um, yeah, just a kolsch. It's fine. Nothing wrong. You know, for the most part their two other beers that were not collabs. Um, I believe it was an amber and a blonde and I have to say they were pretty undrinkable. it. It tasted like an unfinished home brew. And the other thing was they tasted the same as each other. Oh, the blonde and the amber. Like they should not taste. And they should not taste the same. I almost wonder if they crossed

some lines somewhere, because the blonde taste had the same exact flavor profile as the amber. Just slightly lighter. Uh, especially in like mouthfeel. But the flavor was the same as the. I'm like, what is going on here? It was, it was strange. Look, brand new working out the kinks, I get it. I'll give him six months and I'll try it again. But it's a little rough. I feel like if you're gonna do a soft opening and you don't have your stuff ready, that's the other thing. Taste it very unfinished.

Don't do the soft open. Yeah, or just do it with the other guest taps so you can train your staff. You know, I understand you need to train your staff. I didn't even think of that. You know, they've got the guest taps. Go for it. Just say we're a beer bar for the next couple of months while you train your staff, you know. Totally makes sense to me. I did not have any food, but I saw people ordering food and the food looked great, so hopefully they got that good stuff going for them. We'll see. Like I said, I'm not writing them off. I will give them some time and go back. Just they're gonna need some time and hopefully maybe they reach out to

someone with a little more experience who can help them dial some stuff in. Right. You're in the community. There's people you can reach out to. Exactly. So, uh, yeah, it just, it felt like they tried to rush it for their soft opening or something like that. And you can't rush art. Damn. That's deep. Yeah. Just get that tattooed on me. You can't rush art. Uh. All right, we. Before I drink my beer, we we have a voicemail. Oh. From the not so great state of Utah.

Oh, shoot. Hello? No one is available. Oh, shit. Please leave a message after the tone. Hey, this is listener Steph and I am here to back up listener Brian because I'm listening to your most recent show, and Flex is turning down tickets to The Great Taste of the Midwest. I have also told Flex that he needs to go to the great Midwest, and it's incredibly hard to get those tickets. And if Flex doesn't pull his act together at some point, I need to be best friends with listener. Brian and I will go with him because this is bullcrap.

Also, it's so hard for me to listen to your show because I don't have anyone to complain to about all this stuff. Okay, I love you guys. Bye. You should exchange numbers with intern Brian so you guys can just complain about. Not that Brian complains about the show, but we like to talk about the show as I listen to it. Uh, and other. Brian. Wisconsin. Brian. Madison. Brian. Yeah. Madison. Brian. If you want steph's number, I can, uh, I can arrange a meet ups. I don't mean that in like a hook up kind of way, but in a, you know, free Beerfest kind of way. Yeah.

Brian, uh, he's married. He's got some kids. Yeah. Super solid family, man. Good. No. Good to know. So there you have it. Uh, Flex. More people want you to go to the great tasting. Great. That was very Fontana Jim of stuff. Um. Except way bubblier. Yeah. And faster. And. Yes. Yeah. He he makes me feel like, uh, like he's my second dad, and he's disappointed. Super disappointed in me. Yeah. And, you know, however long his voicemail is.

I just feel worse and worse and worse. But yeah, you know, the Beerfest. I know I've heard a lot of good things about it. My beer quantity is down so much right now. Mhm. I just don't know if I could do it. I mean, I believe in you. Oh, man, you make me feel like a superhero now. Oh, boy. Captain America, over here! Oh, boy. Look, you just go, and you don't get full pause and you.

Just go to have a good time. Yeah. You know what we'll do? I'll get you. I think Erica already offered. She'll send you some pretzel necklaces. She did say that. So you can munch on those as you're drinking. Help you not get hammered. Okay. Keep them to, you know, shorter pause and, you know, dump the stuff that's not good. Sure, sure. Yeah. And even pilot Tom reached out and told me how great this fest is and how he had just went to go get his tickets. See? Uh, but I do know he goes every year, him and his wife, and.

Uh, he could probably fly you over. He probably could. He is a pilot. It's like ten minutes from your house. Yeah. Wouldn't take it. Wouldn't take long. Just saying. Yeah. You know what? Uh, keeping an open mind. Okay. It's fair. And we'll see where the wind takes me. Or the pilot takes you. Yeah. You know the wind? Yeah. That was a great win. So to everybody out there listening is gonna think that that was a drop.

Definitely not. No that was Greg. 100% my mouth. Unreal. Yeah. I thought it was windy in my room. I'm available for gigs. You can hire me at any time. Uh, if you have a voicemail to leave. 805538. Beer 2337. You don't only have to be mad at Flex. You can be happy at Flex too. Yeah, somebody compliment me or something. Jesus Christ. Except for Fontana Jim not allowed to be happy. Yeah. No, he's. Yeah, he's always gotta be angry at something. Yeah. So, uh. All right, before we go any further. I am quite thirsty over here.

Calls to the bullpen for beer. Yeah. He does. I am drinking from Altamont Beer Works Cali hop trip. And I'm going to be real honest with everybody. I 100% bought this for the cannot. Oh man. It looks like a couple of woodland creatures on like a log flume ride. Yeah, it looks like like a water ride. Yeah. But instead of water, it's beer. And they are holding something.

It looks like dice with hops on it. Okay. Not quite sure what that is. Uh. Anyways, I bought it because I loved the cannot. This is a collaboration between Altamont Firestone Walker and Hollingbery and Sons Inc. hops. Oh. Big old collab. That's a long name. It is a long name, 6.5% has a 3.8 on untapped with only 517 ratings from the brewery. They say Cali Hop Trip is a West Coast IPA collaboration with

Firestone Walker Brewing Company and Hollingbery and Son Hops. Tangier. Tangier. Tangier, Tangier, Rimosa, Kashmir and to deliver a wafting cannabis aromatics, candied orange peel and crushed pineapple over a firm classic. Bitterness Golden in color? Yep, and unapologetically drinkable. It's a story blown out of proportion, like writing a tiki with a bear and a lion on the nose buds. They talked this beer up a lot.

It better be good. So it's real old school and it's in its nose. Uh, a lot of bitterness. I do get some of that sort of cannabis nose. They talk about maybe a little orange peel, but I'm not getting like crushed pineapple or any of that stuff on the on the nose at least. So let's stick the Tongue-jobber in. Yeah. Uh, I get a little more pineapple on the tongue than I do the nose and not so much orange. Definitely old school in its bitterness, but new school in its light bodied ness. Mhm. Took a little sip before the

show and you know, it was fine. It's good. I'm liking it more now. The fruit is coming out more that it sat here for a few minutes and warmed up a bit. This is a nice, solid, easy to drink beer. 6.5%. Uh, doesn't drink like it. It's very light in body compared to a lot of Westies. My favorite thing with a real well done west coast is when it is that light body and it's super easy to drink. And it's not just like a malt bomb. Yeah. Ready to fill your stomach up like you ate a loaf of bread. Right.

I don't know if there's an actual term for that. I call them like the new style of West Coast or whatever. Okay. Modern West coast. Um, and I am so tired of the old school west coast where it's that loaf of bread. I just can't do it. I feel like shit afterwards. I don't enjoy the taste of it or the mouthfeel. It's just not enjoyable anymore. It's just not. There's no reason for it. We've we've moved on. We have, you know, pillowy soft hazes and very light Westies technology. Exactly. We can rebuild. Um, this is nice. This is a real easy drinker. Altamont is knowing I knew what I was getting into.

Altamont is known for their danky dank Westie hop forward beers, and this is no exception. Uh, like I said, lighter in body than a traditional Westie, which I appreciate. Definitely a good one to have. Great. Cannot. And, uh, let's see, I got a single. I don't know if I want a four pack, like a two pack. I could, I respect a two pack. Yeah. Like it's good. I'm definitely glad I'm having it. I just don't know if I want four of them. Okay, I feel that. Okay.

Half. Half a half a four pack. Half pack. Yeah. Half pack. Yeah. My favorite rapper. Half pack. I like that. Yeah. Uh, anyways, all right, a little news before we end this journey. Lord Hobo and Lone Pine are going to be outsourcing production to Isle Brewers Guild. You you've had some Lord hobo, right? Boom. Sauce and that stuff? No. Oh, okay. I've definitely had I remember definitely like boom sauce. I think there was a couple other very it's kind of like King SU where

they had like pseudo SU and mega SU. It's like boom sauce. And here comes the boom and boom in your pants. No, that's like that. Oh, there there's a big East Coast brewing company that always puts out a beer. And it's like Firestone Walker with the mind haze where it's like, oh, haze craze this. Yeah. And I've never had that one either. All right. Well, I, you know, I haven't had it in forever, but I did like me some boom sauce and I'd always grab it when I found it on tap. Anyways, Evergreen Collective, the parent company of Lord Hobo and Lone Pine, is preparing to shift production to Isle Brewers

Guild in Pawtucket, Rhode Island. Well, it's glad to hear they have a guild. Yeah. Do you think they have as big a guild as you do? I would hope it's at least more than one single person. And one single fish. Well, yeah. Yeah. Uh, the first Ibg brood batches are expected to roll out in early June. Evergreen board member Simon Thorpe told Reuben the taproom and event space at Lord Hobo's facility in Woodburn, Massachusetts, will remain open, but the company

will cease operations of its 10000 barrel capacity brewhouse. The Woodburn closure results in the loss of 18 jobs, he said. When you get this kind of strategic change and inflection points in an industry in a company, the most difficult thing is that you're forced to part ways with people who have been part of the fabric of the company. All departing employees have been offered severance packages and transition support. In addition, they are welcome to apply for continued employment at other company locations, including taproom breweries at Lone

Pines Innovation Facility in Gorham, Maine. Emmy. That's Maine, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay. What do you think a severance package is for that? I hope it's pretty good. Like, you know, give me six months pay. I might go do a little traveling and get over the fact that you just fired me for no reason. I would imagine it was like 200 bucks in a graphic tee. Don't forget a four pack of not half. Yeah. Half pack of out of code boom sauce or something. You get half pack? Yeah. Can I at least get a large

graphic tee? No, we have left is XXXL hope it fits your mom. Sorry. That's not funny. People lost their job, I apologize. Yeah. What do you think about this? As a consumer? How do you feel about like, it's not brewed at the actual brewery? It's contract brewed and brought in. I mean, I guess technically it's probably still craft. I don't know anything about Isle Brewers Guild, but let's assume it is. So, uh, for me, I really enjoy going to started

doing some contract brewing and for some local other cities. Um. And I guess I don't think there's anything wrong with it. They do the like, you know, they follow the recipe to a t how. Right. Said beer is supposed to be done. So I don't think it really matters where or who. It's just, you know, as long as it's staying true to what it is. Yeah, I mostly agree. It's funny when I hear this, my initial thought was like, oh, it's, you know, it's no longer whatever the same or legitimate or whatever.

It's, but it's like, yeah, same brewery. Uh, as long as it doesn't taste different, what do we care? But then should we care less if a brewery sells out, you know, Budweiser or whatever? One of the first ones I've heard that did this was years ago, a brewery down in San Diego called Second Chance Brewing. Um, had a great space, big old brew set up and they just closed it all up and ah, I think they're still around. Even strictly contract. They don't even have a taproom though, you know, Lord hobo will still have a taproom. Um, I think Epic EPPIG, I think.

Epic brewing is now doing that also. They're completely contract brewed, but they do have a taproom or two left. So it seems to be happening more. It's interesting because contract brewing, you don't make as much like the beer costs you a little bit more, but also then you don't have rent or whatever expenses to pay for. So or, or if you don't have the like production facility yourself, then yeah, it just makes perfect sense. Right? And the aforementioned epic brewing, I know when they still had their

brewery, they didn't have enough. I don't know if there's enough capacity or if they didn't have the canning line, but they were brewing their taproom beer and like keg distro in house and brewing their can distro at Ale Smith. Huh? Yeah, I was like, oh, that's interesting. So technically, like these two beers could taste a little different. Yeah, I guess in the long run there's really nothing wrong with it. I just it seems weird for some reason to me. Maybe I'm a purist, I don't know.

I think that's what it is. Yeah, 100%. Look, if I see boom sauce on a tap handle, I'm still gonna drink it, though. I haven't seen that in forever. Be honest. I think Lord hobo is a glory. Days are a little behind them, but yeah, good stuff. Do you, uh, do any Cinco de Mayo celebrating? Uh, so, I mean, you kind of know how I feel about the Cinco de Mayo. Yeah, right. Just kind of like, super Americanized. Like gringo de Mayo. Yeah, I heard that, brother.

But one of the, like, the staple meals in our weekly meal planning is like, uh, the crock pot chicken for tacos. Oh. Yeah. The chicken. And you pour a jar of salsa in and you just, like, sit for like six hours and it, you know, it's delicious. It's crazy and easy. Well, my wife did that on Monday, which was Cinco de forth, not quite. I'm sorry. Uh. Fourth day. Cinco and, uh. Totally fixed. It. Yeah. That's right.

So she made it on the fourth, and I had the leftovers on the fifth, and that was, uh, you know, and, you know, I ran out of taco shells, so then I had to make a burrito, so. Yeah. All right. You know, when life hands, you know, taco shells, burrito. That sounds about as authentic as El Grande Americano. Oh, gee. Yes, the original, not the imposter. Uh, so, yeah, not nothing too, uh, major celebratory. Okay. Uh, on my end, but I, you know,

I had some solid food because my wife is a solid cook, so. Nice. Yeah. We almost never go out for Cinco anymore. One of our favorite was, I mean, more than ten years ago, at this 11 or 12 years ago, we went out for Cinco de Mayo. It was also, I think it was also a Taco Tuesday, like this year's was and met up with a friend and we just got absolutely trashed. I mean, one of those, just like, obviously we were in our late 20s, early, yeah, late 20s, over ten years ago. And we partied like it.

And it just, we were silly. We were so drunk, especially my wife, we had to Uber home even though we were, we were like two blocks from the apartment. That's crazy. She was like, I'm not walking. I was like, we're almost, we're, we're barely, you know, it's two blocks tops. And she's like, I cannot make it that far. I was like, okay. So I paid the minimum for an Uber ride, which at the time was $4. Oh man. I'm sure it's nowhere near that. But um. Anyways, Cinco de Drinko Mic Ultra tops the

draft volume share on Cinco de Mayo. Gross, gross. My gringo de mayo. Oh, I forgot to say we went to our favorite local Mexican food restaurant. We we never do Cinco stuff right. This year we really wanted some marquees and tacos in our life. So we went down, had a couple margaritas, had a couple tacos, and like all the white people were getting too drunk and silly and like the bartender, I don't know if we're just, you know, non-threatening looking or what, but the bartenders always talk

to us and tell us about like, who the shitty customers around the bar are. And we have a good time. And, and I, and she was a very, very much a white person. I just said, gringos, am I right that that's all she needed? She was cracking up. Fucking hilarious. Yeah, it was great. So, uh, in further proof that gringos are the worst, a Michelob Ultra was numero uno on Cinco de Mayo. God damn it. Nick ultra gained the most volume share on draft on Tuesday, May 5th, increasing a solid 1.23%. It was also the number one poured

draft produced by volume in Beer board tracked accounts nationwide. Billboard claimed it's data confirms that Cinco de Mayo remains one of the most influential occasion based shifts in beverage alcohol. So I do have a funny single story. I don't know if I've maybe I've told I've told plenty of stories on the show, but me and my buddy Kevin, we went out. We used to go to the local Mexican joint all the time for, uh, early happy hour. Okay. We loved it.

Just get like two, three margaritas. You pay like 12 bucks. And it was amazing. Leave with a sweet buzz, have some chips and salsa. It was the best. So one day, uh, I think it was even before I was married. Cinco de Mayo fell on a one of my off day. So I was like, dude, we gotta, we gotta go get some margs and just go nuts and have have a good time and be gringos. Right? Classic gringos. So we ended up having like five,

six margaritas, maybe seven each, and we got real messed up. We were like, hey, it's happy hour, right? Let's get it. You going? So we finished up for the the eve or the afternoon actually. And we're like, all right, you know, we'll, we'll take our bill and we'll close out. Turns out it wasn't happy hour. Not on Cinco. It's not. And we, we were like, uh, what's going on? We're like, we came here for happy hour. And the bartender said, yeah, uh, we don't do that on Cinco de Mayo. And, uh, we were shocked. Yeah.

Kind of upset that nobody said anything. We, I mean, we know we paid our bill as we would, but, uh, yeah, that one kind of hit the heart. Yeah, we we, the place we went to. They have late night happy hour every night. It's after 8:00. Okay. If you sit at the bar and we got there at 8:00 hoping that there, you know, we figured there's a good chance they're not, because it's Mexican restaurant cigarette a mile. We walked like, hey, we're doing happy hour. And they're like, no, like that's. Crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. I mean, they don't need to. The business is. Their money, right?

Yeah. Makes sense. But I probably told this one. I'll keep it short. One of my worst cincos was back when I was working news, and I had to be there at five in the morning. I went out with a couple of girls the night before and just did Cinco, right. And it was one of those times where, like, when you get in your car, you're like, yeah, I'm okay to drive. And halfway home you're like, I'm not okay to drive. Like, fucking keep it together. You know, the Uber days, it was my single days and went to bed at who knows what, you know,

121 in the morning had to wake up at like 330, got to work, definitely still drunk. And this is like I said, when I was doing news, I had not started directing at this place yet. And that day my boss goes, hey, you want to try directing the the new show? Like the main show, the live news show. I was like, yeah, sure. Okay. Oh man. And that's about when it started to kick in. And I'm just I'm not sweating out of nervousness. I'm sweating out of all the booze that was inside of it. Yeah.

You are living the hangover. Oh, it is happening in real time. And I'm sure I was white as a ghost and oh man, I don't know how I got through it, but I didn't get fired. In fact, I became the the director of that show, so it must not have been too bad. But hoo ha man. Good times. It's amazing how old we are now. And I think back to when I used to be able to party till three in the morning and still get to work at five. Yeah. And it hurts when you think about it. Yep. Yeah. It actually hurts for like two days. Yeah. Think about it. Though.

Like when I go to Vegas, which is extremely rare, you'll still find me up at six in the morning drinking. I don't know what it is about Vegas, but I will stay up all night. Wow. It's weird, I don't I don't know why. Nowhere else. That's impressive. I don't know why. You're a specimen. I'm something. Uh, new Belgium is resurrecting the original fat tire Recipe. In fact, it started rolling out on shelves last week. So if you're a fan of Fat Tire and want to relive it, go pick some up. It's in honor of their 35th anniversary. And if you. Really used to be a big fan. Yeah.

I mean, if you're really bored, go back, find batch 50, I believe it was. And we had a fat tire drink up where we gave plenty of notice, like months notice to everyone that for the 50th, we want to do a fat tire. Drink up. People submitted their reviews of fat tire, voicemail, emails, whatever, and we had just a bunch of listeners talking about their fat tire and we were drinking Fat Tire. And, uh, that was fun. That was back when you could do that with like a beer, like, oh, fat tire. Everyone gets fat tire everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. Exactly. So drink it all the time. It's a little harder to find those beers these days that are

still craft, but you can find them nationwide. And if we can figure one out, maybe we should do another. Yeah, it's funny you say that. I feel like I haven't seen that beer around. That's funny because, uh, New Belgium is just killing it. Like the only craft brew, not the only, but the only craft brewery making tons and tons of money right now. But it's probably mostly Voodoo Ranger. Yeah, that's everywhere and all different types. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, in a story of who the fuck thought we needed, this, Boston beer is going to launch

15% ABV electric coolers. That's LYTT. Oh. That's cool. Yeah. Uh, Boston Beer Company is launching light electric coolers in five states this month. Light is a line of 15% ABV malt based RTD offering sold in 6.8oz single serve glow in the dark, resealable plastic light bulb shaped containers. What the initial six flavors include strawberry raita, blue raspberry, peach mango,

tropical punch, and grape. Oh, and Long Island Iced Tea. They'll be rolling out in Florida, Ohio, Texas, Washington and Illinois. How bored are they in the marketing department. Lytt. Who knows? You get Lytt off light. I don't know. Stupid. The light. Light bulb shaped. Oh, man. I feel like they're trying to play off buzz balls, right? They're like, how can we one up that? And then they just kind of. See what's a shape that people

really gravitate towards? Light bulbs. Never have I ever. I could think of a couple better shapes, but stupid ass. So stupid. We'll wrap it up on this one. Driver arrested for DUI in Folsom with quite the BAC. Not quite as bad as Davis's story, but worth mentioning. Folsom police said concerned citizens reported a suspected impaired driver on May 1st in the area of Iron Point Road and Grosvenor Road. Officers quickly found the vehicle

and conducted a traffic stop. The driver, who was the sole occupant of the vehicle, underwent field sobriety tests and a preliminary alcohol screening, police said. Authorities stated that the driver's blood alcohol concentration was measured at. 0.270. If only. Oh boy. It's in the threes. Come on. .349. How are you? Not dead? How are you not dead? Oh. That's over four times.

That would take me, like, a week to recover from. I'm still recovering from thinking about it. Uh, the driver was obviously arrested on suspicion of DUI. I don't think that's a suspicion at that point. And booked into the Sacramento County Main jail. Look what even goes through your brain. Yeah. How much? First of all, how much do you have to drink to get that fucking ham scored? Three. Five, essentially. And that's when they pulled him over. Who knows what he was ten minutes prior. It was probably a fucking four zero or something.

Yeah, I was gonna say that. Yeah, your blood's almost 50% alcohol. That's nuts. It's not. It's funny cause it's not funny, right? It's. Dude should be dead. Get help! Yes! Or something. Or water. Or. Yeah. Or Gatorade. Oh, man. I don't know if I should tell this story. Uh. Oh. Well, now you must. So at work, our, uh, our landscaping guy who cuts the

grass around, you know, the. Well, he closed his business last year, so he needed a new guy. Well, we have a regular customer who owns his own landscaping company. My brother in law said, hey, you know, do you mind doing the grass here and sign with you or whatever it is, however you landscape. Right. Company contracts work and you cut. We pay. Turns out this guy is a Belligerent alcoholic. Oh. And we had found out that he

drinks while he cuts grass. Sure. So he came into the shop, completely belligerent. Bought two cases of seltzers while he was in the shop. Guy was watching him through the window, and he was opening the cases and just dropping cans in front of him like poor juggling, trying to get him into his car. And then he ended up getting into the car, coming out carrying two

bags to our garbage. So, you know, I went out after he left and I fished those garbage or those bags out of the garbage. Full of cans. There was like nine empty cans. Holy shit in the bags. This guy just getting hammered while he's out there fucking cutting the grass just blew my mind. Nothing like sharp objects and lots of drinking. Yeah. Or, you know, driving or operating machinery. Yeah. All those things. Kind of kind of not cool. Smart. Yeah.

Speaking of smart things like that reminds me of Florida. Hi, Vanessa. Yeah. Just. Just be smart, everybody. Hi, Vanessa. Be smart. Vanessa. Yes. Be smart. Don't be stupid. All right, we're gonna wrap it up. Follow us on the socials at @CraftBeerRepublic @Flex_me_a_beer. Of course. @CraftBeerRepublic dot com 805538 beer 2337. Send us some emails and some voicemails and all that good stuff. I hope everyone out there is doing their best to stay very nicely hydrated. And on that note.

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